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Missal (letter)

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 Contents - Mar 2004AD2000 March 2004 - Buy a copy now
Editorial: Archbishop Wilson's challenge for educators - Michael Gilchrist
Red Mass Homily: Can Lawyers Be Saints? - Bishop Anthony Fisher
News: The Church Around the World - AD2000
Ad limina 2004: The 'Statement of Conclusions' five years on - Michael Gilchrist
Archaeology: Macquarie University's latest papyrus fragments shed light on early Christianity - Peter Westmore
USA: American bishops critical of their RE texts - Zenit News Service
USA: Pro-abortion politicians put on notice - AD2000
HIV/AIDS: A Catholic approach to AIDS: value-based behaviour change - Sr Miriam Duggan
World AIDS Day: A Cardinal, AIDS and the BBC - Msgr Peter J. Elliott
Virtue ethics: Challenging our contemporary culture's flawed worldview - Hayden Ramsey
Wisdom from the 17th century: an anonymous nun's prayer
Letters: Tabernacle (letter) - Rosemary Chandler
Letters: Human life (letter) - Robert Prinzen-Wood
Letters: Social Justice Statement (letter)
Poetry: TERESA : A tribute to Blessed Mother Teresa of Calcutta - John Meston
Letters: Inspiring (letter) - Fr Joseph Medwin
Letters: Scripture and the Magisterium - John Frey
Letters: Missal (letter) - John Rayner
Events: Albury-Melbourne Life Walk (letter) - George Simpson
Letters: African Rosary and Prayer Book Appeal (letter) - Obour Isaac
Books: John Henry Newman on the pre-eminent place of the Blessed Virgin in Christianity - Leo Madigan (reviewer)
Books: Lord, Have Mercy : The Healing Power of Confession, by Scott Hahn - Paul Russell (reviewer)
Books: Archbishop Fulton Sheen : A Man for All Media, by Gregory Joseph Ladd - Michael Gilchrist (reviewer)
CD Review: FOLLOW ME : The life of Jesus for children, by Zak Zreikat - Joe Padero (reviewer)
Books: THE HEADLONG TRAFFIC : Poems and Prose 1997 to 2002, by Bruce Dawe - Michael Gilchrist (reviewer)
Music: Reflections for Peace, Joy and Serenity, by Melanie and Christopher Duluk - Paul Russell (reviewer)
Books: AD Books - More new titles for 2004
Reflection: Scholarship, truth and Divine Revelation - Fr John O'Neill

I have already read your article about the welcome changes to the English in the forthcoming Missal (February AD2000). One thing that I have read elsewhere is that the first draft of the new English version of the Creed translates "qui propter nos homines et propter nostram salutem" as "who for us and for our salvation".

My own parish has been displaying this mistranslation for more than a year on its overhead during Masses. Indeed, many churches around the world promote this restriction of Divine purpose.

In the context of saying the Creed, "us" on its own means those who are actually saying the prayer. This is normal English usage of what "us" means. But the Word did not become flesh just for one congregation. Meanwhile, the feminists amongst us have caused the word "men" to be deleted from this part of the Creed because they say it excludes women and children.

They, in fact, are the divisive ones, for while they claim it excludes them, common English for centuries has understood that the word "men" can be both gender specific and generic. But the feminists now tell us this is unacceptable. It is they who have changed the Creed - no doubt an infallible change to an infallible Creed.

How does the Vox Clara Committee respond to this situation?

I would accept the translation to read "for all mankind and for its salvation". Homines is translated as "mankind", but since the possessive pronoun "its" is neuter this makes clear "mankind" is generic and not gender specific. Secondly, use of the adjective "all" emphasises the universality and totality of the Divine salvific mission.

I humbly suggest this is what the Creed should actually be saying because it is what the Council of Nicea was defining as the truth.

JOHN RAYNER
Hillarys, WA

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Reprinted from AD2000 Vol 17 No 2 (March 2004), p. 15

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